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macwhizard
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Registered: 10/21/06
solaris 10 on virtual pc , vmware or qemu ?   
Oct 21, 2006 11:05 AM

 
Hi, i'm new to Solaris. i was wondering if i could install Solaris 10 on any of these ?. My goal is get SCSA. My options are,

Intel Core 2 Duo, Intel 975 mobo (unsupported). or
Intel Pentium D, Intel 945 mobo (supported) or

getting old IBM Intellistation E pro (P4 1.7Ghz, i845 chipset) or ThinkCentre A51 (P4 3.06 Ghz, i915)

Core, D and ThinkCentre models would cost the same, and E Pro will be around $250 (including 19" monitor)

any suggestions ?. Thanks in advance.
 
Darren_Dunham
Posts:4,150
Registered: 8/4/06
Re: solaris 10 on virtual pc , vmware or qemu ?   
Oct 23, 2006 1:07 PM (reply 1 of 14)  (In reply to original post )

 
Solaris 9 and Solaris 10 (x86) are supported guest operating systems under vmware.

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Darren
 
macwhizard
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Registered: 10/21/06
Re: solaris 10 on virtual pc , vmware or qemu ?   
Oct 24, 2006 3:40 AM (reply 2 of 14)  (In reply to #1 )

 
Thanks Darren,

Should i practice on Real Hardware for SCSA ? or run multipple vm's to simulate several solaris machines and use tap interface for network connectivity ?.

Oh, by the way, does both cores on Core 2 Duo work ?. (check this link,
http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/data/sx/systems/details/1768.html.
it says number of cpus: 1 shouldn't it be 2 ? or is it the physical number of CPU's ?

Thanks in advance.
 
Darren_Dunham
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Registered: 8/4/06
Re: solaris 10 on virtual pc , vmware or qemu ?   
Oct 24, 2006 8:42 AM (reply 3 of 14)  (In reply to #2 )

 
Thanks Darren,

Should i practice on Real Hardware for SCSA ? or run
multipple vm's to simulate several solaris machines
and use tap interface for network connectivity ?.

I have no experiece with Solaris under vmware. I'd imagine in most circumstances it works fine.

Oh, by the way, does both cores on Core 2 Duo work ?.

Yes, it should.

(check this link,
http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/data/sx/systems/detail
s/1768.html.
it says number of cpus: 1 shouldn't it be 2 ?
or is it the physical number of CPU's ?

That is a report on the specifics of the machine, so it is showing the number of installed CPUs (1).

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Darren
 
yarchie73
Posts:5
Registered: 10/24/06
Re: solaris 10 on virtual pc , vmware or qemu ?   
Oct 24, 2006 9:29 AM (reply 4 of 14)  (In reply to #3 )

 
I really doubt whether Solaris 10 will run properly (if at all) on Core 2 Duo. I have been trying to install on my Core 2 Duo for two months now with both Solaris 10 and the latest Solaris Express - no luck. As soon as the pc reboots after installing, I either find myself staring at a black screen or my box goes into endless rebooting.

I have noticed that I am not the only one who is affected by this weird behavior. I have read similar complaints from people who are also running Core 2 Duo, Pentium D or Centrino. I also found a forum which points out that neither of these CPUs is currently supported by Solaris, at least not in 64 bit mode (32 bit mode does appear to work, but I am just too fed up to even give it a try...). I guess Linus Torvalds was right to point out that hardware support under solaris is a hoax.

Whatever, the same behavoir appears to affect Solaris running inside vmware (although I cannot confirm this). Read this one for example :
http://pubs.vmware.com/guestnotes/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=guestos_new&file=guestos_solaris10.html
 
metaztaziz
Posts:3
Registered: 11/22/06
Re: solaris 10 on virtual pc , vmware or qemu ?   
Nov 21, 2006 5:45 PM (reply 5 of 14)  (In reply to #4 )

 
"As soon as the pc reboots after installing, I either find myself staring at a black screen or my box goes into endless rebooting."

Yes, I have into this too (using centrino) after installing Solaris 9 (due to low mem restriction) in a custom configured box. I am able to install it with webstart, only to end with a black screen. I think is a problem with the graphic card support (is not in the HLC).
 
FabianBreschi
Posts:21
Registered: 11/11/03
Re: solaris 10 on virtual pc , vmware or qemu ?   
Nov 22, 2006 11:05 AM (reply 6 of 14)  (In reply to #5 )

 
This is my config:

Sony VAIO Centrino Duo, 2GB RAM

Solaris 10/06

VMWare workstation 5.0.0.0

Had some troubles setting up networking, but at last it's works just fine. I'm using it on my dev machine Once on a while looks like losing the video config, asking to run kdmconfig.

Regds

Fabian
 
neelam_goyal
Posts:2
Registered: 12/27/06
Re: solaris 10 on virtual pc , vmware or qemu ?   
Dec 27, 2006 4:27 PM (reply 7 of 14)  (In reply to #6 )

 
Is Solaris10 aupported as guest on QEMU?

I am facing some problems installing Solaris10 on QEMU. Any clues?

Thanks and Regards,
Neelam
 
Lion-O
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Registered: 12/12/05
Re: solaris 10 on virtual pc , vmware or qemu ?   
Dec 29, 2006 11:34 AM (reply 8 of 14)  (In reply to original post )

 
Solaris 10 runs just fine on VMWare. IMO this is also the most preferred environment for all this because its 1) Free for usage (VMWare server) and 2) Is a complete virtual PC.

Next to Solaris you can basicly do anything with it, its definatly worth the download. Virtual PC is Windows based (iirc) and I don't hang out on these forums to talk about that stuff. qemu is nice, and promising, but its by far as extensive as VMWare is.

The next in line might be Xen which is also extremely versatile up to a point where you can move a virtual machine to another box while keeping it running (resulting in an absolute minimum downtime). I have heard rumors about Xen being ported to Solaris' but so far thats all it is as far as I know.

Still; to answer the question I'd be looking at VMWare. Simply because its the most extensive out of the bunch, officially (/natively) supports Solaris and can do a lot more.
 
venkata.suresh
Posts:1
Registered: 4/30/08
Re: solaris 10 on virtual pc , vmware or qemu ?   
Apr 30, 2008 7:57 PM (reply 9 of 14)  (In reply to #6 )

 
Hi ,

I have installed Solaris 10 on My laptop using VMware , the installation went fine, while choosing the Network i just choosed the defaults
as i am not familiar with Solaris . After installing i see that i don't have any network connection and no IP assigned , i tried to resolve it by
going through web , but I was un successful , in this post i seen some on did same kind of installation and fixed the network problem
Please help me in resolving this issue

Suresh
 
Strel0k
Posts:1
Registered: 2/22/05
Re: solaris 10 on virtual pc , vmware or qemu ?   
Aug 15, 2008 8:40 AM (reply 10 of 14)  (In reply to #9 )

 
if you guys will try to read some docs about OS you are trying to install - you will be just fine. RTFM, finally...
 
VirtualizationMaster
Posts:2
Registered: 9/6/09
Re: solaris 10 on virtual pc , vmware or qemu ?   
Sep 6, 2009 8:28 AM (reply 11 of 14)  (In reply to original post )

 
Dear macwhizard,

Solaris 10 is supported on the full range of VMware products (Workstation, Virtual Server, & ESX). Almost 99% of what you can do in a physical machine you can do in a VMware Virtual Machine. I can see virtualizaiton to make a lot more sense to you than buying physical machines for testing, as it will save you a lot on hardware. If you need a reference on this I have read it in many places, just to mention one of them Solaris 10 (x86) under VmWare on Virtualization Team

I hope this not only help Macwhizard, but anyone investigating this in the future. I have tried it several time and it completely work.
 
edepas
Posts:100
Registered: 8/4/06
Re: solaris 10 on virtual pc , vmware or qemu ?   
Sep 7, 2009 11:08 AM (reply 12 of 14)  (In reply to #11 )

 
Two bits worth - I have installed Solaris 10 u6 on a XenServer 5.0.0 - hosted HVM and have faced difficulty with ata driver timeouts which are quite certainly not due to underlying disk hardware faults.

As posted in a separate thread I currently have open, I think that the cause is that I have used the incorrect cmdk driver (cmdk is called by ata when the target of the ata command is an ata disk). I am supposing that this is the case because of the leading name of directory "/platform/i86hvm/kernel/drv", where the file cmdk is located. I may be totally off the mark.

Other than this (fatal!) fault, Solaris 10 u6 runs well on XenServer 5.0.0. I understand that the underlying hardware model is QEMU.

Cheers!
 
Paul_Floyd
Posts:613
Registered: 7/31/06
Re: solaris 10 on virtual pc , vmware or qemu ?   
Sep 9, 2009 2:07 AM (reply 13 of 14)  (In reply to original post )

 
Hi

Not all Pentium D and Pentium 4 support x86 virtualization. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_virtualization (with the usual caveat for wikipedia reliability). I don't know how well (or if at all) virtualization software will work on CPUs that don't have these instructions. The Core 2 Duo would probably be the best bet in this respect.

There are other alternatives: virtual box (ought to work well with Solaris) and dual-booting.

Paul
 
supremedalek
Posts:33
Registered: 4/19/09
Re: solaris 10 on virtual pc , vmware or qemu ?   
Nov 16, 2009 11:19 AM (reply 14 of 14)  (In reply to #13 )

 
I second VirtualBox. Short of being a bit shy on what it reports about the virtualized pci bus, it seems to work fine and it is a bit faster/less of a cpu hog than vmware. I am running Solaris 10 in VBox in an ubuntu linux box. Only thing I had to do was to increase the allocated ram from the recommended (by vbox) 512MB to something a tad higher (576MB).
 
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