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rreyelts
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JSR-175 MetaData availability   
Sep 2, 2003 8:28 AM

 
Does anybody (Neal?) know what level of support there will be for JSR-175 in the next release of the compiler? (Earlier, Neal hinted that there would be some level of support for JSR-175 in a likely-to-be October release of the compiler). For example, there are two parts to the metadata spec - 1) compiler support for writing metadata attributes, and 2) library support for reading metadata attributes. Will support for both parts be present in the October release?

Is there any way I can get some documentation on a) the classfile format of the metadata attributes and/or b) the language format of the metadata attributes? I'd like to get on with using them now, and I'm quite okay with writing my own tool support. As opposed to just making up my own formats, I'd prefer to avoid significant rewrites once good support for metadata attributes exist.

God bless,
-Toby Reyelts
 
gafter
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Registered: 6/25/98
Re: JSR-175 MetaData availability   
Sep 2, 2003 2:30 PM (reply 1 of 5)  (In reply to original post )

 
Does anybody (Neal?) know what level of support there
will be for JSR-175 in the next release of the
compiler? (Earlier, Neal hinted that there would be
some level of support for JSR-175 in a likely-to-be
October release of the compiler). For example, there
are two parts to the metadata spec - 1) compiler
support for writing metadata attributes, and 2)
library support for reading metadata attributes. Will
support for both parts be present in the October
release?

Part (1) will be in the next compiler prototype. Part (2) will be in an update of javadoc included in the prototype only if it is ready in time; I can't say whether or not it will be. Reflection support definitely won't be in the prototype, as that requires a new VM and I'm not going to package up that much stuff for the prototype. I think there will be a public Beta early next year.

Is there any way I can get some documentation on a)
the classfile format of the metadata attributes and/or
b) the language format of the metadata attributes? I'd
like to get on with using them now, and I'm quite okay
with writing my own tool support. As opposed to just
making up my own formats, I'd prefer to avoid
significant rewrites once good support for metadata
attributes exist.

JSR175 is in community review. If you're a JCP member you should have no problem getting a copy. If not, wait for the next prototype. I plan to put copies of all the specs in the next prototype.
 
rreyelts
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Registered: 11/12/97
Re: JSR-175 MetaData availability   
Sep 3, 2003 7:11 AM (reply 2 of 5)  (In reply to #1 )

 
Thanks for the info, Neal.

God bless,
-Toby Reyelts
 
lord_pixel
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Registered: 10/21/97
Re: JSR-175 MetaData availability   
Sep 3, 2003 7:33 AM (reply 3 of 5)  (In reply to #1 )

 

JSR175 is in community review. If you're a JCP member
you should have no problem getting a copy. If not,
wait for the next prototype. I plan to put copies of
all the specs in the next prototype.

Please do correct me if I'm wrong, but only corporate members of the JCP get access to arbitrary community reviews?

I'm an individual expert group member, and I don't think I can access any other JSR's community review drafts.

Fairly boneheaded, when you consider the NDA I had to sign.
 
rreyelts
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Registered: 11/12/97
Re: JSR-175 MetaData availability   
Sep 3, 2003 9:33 AM (reply 4 of 5)  (In reply to #3 )

 
I recently checked the JCP and you can sign up for individual membership rights, but it only applies to JSRs started with the new JCP1.5 process, which means that I can't get access to any of the metadata JSR info. >:(

God bless,
-Toby Reyelts
 
brucechapman
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Registered: 11/24/98
Re: JSR-175 MetaData availability   
Sep 4, 2003 5:38 PM (reply 5 of 5)  (In reply to #4 )

 
I recently checked the JCP and you can sign up
for individual membership rights, but it only applies
to JSRs started with the new JCP1.5 process, which
means that I can't get access to any of the metadata
JSR info. >:(

God bless,
-Toby Reyelts


Yeah, It does say that, but I recently sighed up to the JCP (in the last few weeks), and have accessed JSR-175 community draft with no problems.

NO, I can't tell you what's in it.


Bruce.
 
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